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No, I'm speaking about the finnish rishayon. Yes, the engines are completely diffrent, but the output is the same, but alfas engine likes revs more:twisted:

To Alfa 164 TS: Do you know, how I know that Thema has the same number of HP like the 164 T.Spark? It written in my "rishayon rehev". Also the facelift T.Spark from model 94' had an air-bag. The Face lift 164 has an original twiters in the front doors.

^ Wrong! The 16V Thema has exactly the same number of HP like 164 T.Spark with catalytic system. The 16V Thema 93' and forward has more HP, because the intake system has a "move" diafragma. This model of the Thema is Thema III-series VIS

As you can see in my signature, I had "some" 164. The ABS was a standart equipment in the 3.0L versions and an option on the 2.0 T.Spark until 92'. Since 93' you can see the ABS on the all of 164s. The Airbag came on 94'(Thats why the disign of the steering wheel been changed). My father had 95' 164, so there are in Israel 95' Supers and T.Sparks(you can open the "mehiron" The T.Sparks in Israel(since 94) are better equippet than in Europe: There are alloy wheels,fog lights,rear electric windows and automatic climate system. And about the Thema: Two weeks ago I sold my alfa 75 T.Spark and bought Lancia Thema 16V 92'. The driving expirience in my opinion is the same like in alfa 164, I like them both very much. In the Thema really is more extras: Rear electric windows(also on the early models),automatic heating/climate control,and an ABS allready on 92' model,BUT! The thema has small wheels in the standart! Only 175/65R14:shock: And also: The T.Spark 164 has a timing chain and no belt like in the 164 3.0 or in the Thema. In my opinion it is a big plus.

As I know the suspension in the alfa 145/6 is the same like in Fiat Tipo/Tempra. So check it, because it will be much easier to find an also to cheap to buy.

Yes, it's not belong to you:mrgreen: M+S=Mud and snow

Fiat Tempra- Lancia Dedra- Fiat Uno- alfa 33 1.7 8V- alfa 33 1.7 16V QV Black- Red alfa 164 T.Spark- White alfa 164 T.Spark- White 33 1.7 16V QV- Red alfa 164 3.0L manual- alfa 75 2.0 T.Spark alfa Sprint 1.5 QV 83'

שמח לאיד?או שרק מקנא?

In my opinion very ugly color for the Coupe.I would pained it into a white, even there are a few white Coupes outside.

I had 164 3.0 V6 manual 88' model and it had power seats, electric sunroof, digital/automatic airconditioner, 4 power windows and more as standard(except the sunroof)! So Hen, if you don't now be quiet!

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אלפא 164 לבנה,ההית או שחלמתי חלום?המכונית היפה על הכביש! ושוב אני אנצל את דפי הפורום המעולה ואשאל: האם למישהו מהחברים או למכריו היתה 164 זהה לזאת,אך ממודל . 95 אודה מאד אם מישהו יוכל למסור פרטים אודותיה.

Now with so low $ it's a very good apportunity to buy a normal car in very low price. Now I think to bring Chevy Suburbun from the U.S, I prefer ofcourse Suburbun with 7.4 petrol engine, but also here in Russia the gas price are going up...

Mimatay roshmim Sistem im I?

To all idiots here... Did you drive in Russia and specially in Saint-Petersburg? I drive here daily and I can say that the drivers here are as crazy like in Israel! In Israel the situation isnot better! And to ^: Have you been here, that you speak?! What do you know about abroad, when you seat all the day in your "shhuna"?

I'm not a Subaru fanatic(You can guess it if you look at my signature:wink:), and I don't have nothing against BMW, but the 500 series is a joke! This car came as standard with manual windows in the front, without power mirrors and with 2.0L 6 cyl engine, whose output was only 125hp:shock: So give me a break. Yes, the Legacy isnot a rocket and the fuel consumption is quiet high, but it has good extras and it's quiet comfortable. And no, Uno hasnot a central locking system as standard(I had Uno) And Ofcourse, good luck to Yosi:)

Because this Punto has an automatic gear, it's 100% ELX with 80hp

Alfa GTV,Renault Fuego(?) and RR Silver Seraph?(?)

Alfa 33 1.7 I.E 93' 367000km Alfa 75 T.Spark 87' 240000km Alfa Sprint 83 QV 167000km Dad's Volvo V40 TDI 98' 395000km

S=Sport M=Mud(The car begins to move from 2nd gear) E=Economy?

^ Japanese car in Israel don't cost twice more than in Europe. The price actually is about the same. Enough "leitbahyen"!!!

Does the Valentine is effective also in Europe? Because it's compltely impossible to drive here with all the cameras In Russia it's doesnot matter, because thereare no cameras:)

Wow! Great car and a great job! I see that on one side there are an Alfa's alloys and o the another :-)Lancia's

I sold here in Finland an alfa 1.7 16V engine to man, who has restored completely a Transporter like you look for. Now he can write behind "powered by Alfa- Romeo"