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תודה רבה ישה!

דוח משטרה, ויש שלט חדש ליד הבית החדש. השכן ידוע, וניתן למצוא אותו. לאן לשלוח את המכתב? למי?

איביזה 2009 1.6 ידני SC אני בן 23 וחצי משלם 5500 ש"ח הכל כלל הכל. לפני שנה שילמתי 6500 ש"ח

לנכבדי הפורום שלום. בבניין שבו גר חבר יש חניית נכים השמורה למספר רכב ספציפי. השכן לו שייך מספר זה כבר לא גר שם ועבר דירה השלט עדיין שם ולא הוסר, החבר חנה בחניה וקיבל 1000 ש"ח קנס. מה עושים? מבקשים להשפט? מה צריך?

נקי ונחמד, מקווה שתהנה לך

"קאקא" ו VRX באותו משפט... מתכון לבאסה רצינית. מוצר כזה צריך זווג הולם כמו P9 או HXD2 או איזה DENON חמוד מימים עברו, במקרה מודרני לא פחות מ P99 חבל

האמת אני מניח שהמטרה פה לתת יותר פאנצ' בתצורת סטריאו, ומאחר יהיה סאב נוסף גדול למשל 12/15 אינץ'. אני לא מאמין שבנפח כזה כמו שהם יכולים ליצור שם יהיה אפקט כל שהו ששווה את ההשקעה. אולי רק אם ימשיכו את התיבה מאחורי הברקס

מאמר נוסף של רוברט זפ :קבלים מודרנים כמו שמוכרים לנו קבל אלקטרוליטי אמיתי ומכירה של 10 כאלה

תמונה מעולה של מערכת חשמלית מאוד בריאה: הרכיב הזה של HELIX הוא מייצב מתח: HELIX פיסת מידע חשובה ביותר, מסתבר שרוב הקבלים שאני מכירים הם לא קבלים במלוא המשמעות של המילה הם בעצם Electric_double-layer_capacitor והפריקה שלהם איטית יותר, כך גם כל המנגנונים של הפריקה והטעינה אוטומטית הרילאים למינהם שפוגעים בתפקוד באופן משמעותי. דבר נוסף הוא צורת בחיבור שצריכה להיות שונה לגמרי ממה שמוסבר בהוראות ההפעלה של רוב היצרנים, היא צריכה להיות כמה שיותר קרוב למגבר עצמו והקבל צריך לשבת בדיוק על הכבל + ו - שמגיע למגבר (כאילו לקצר בינהם) רצוי ללא חיתוך הכבלים עצמם אלה התעלקות עליהם ללא קטיעתם כדי לא להוסיף להתנגדות.

זה לא פנימי, זה יצור עצמי במקום קבל אחד גדול.

KENNY G Michael Bolton :not_worthy: :not_worthy: :not_worthy:

אם כל הכבוד לערוץ 2 ולעודד החובב רכב, הם כולם טעו!!! יש כבר פרארי מזמן בארץ הקודש... התמונה מהיום: Uploaded with ImageShack.us

קבל צריך להיות מותקן בצורה נכונה גם כן וקרוב למגבר ככל האפשר (התאוריה המקובלת). ללא בדיקה מדוקדקת אצל חשמלאי אי אפשר לתת פתרון חד משמעי אבל לדעתי או שיש צריכת יתר או שיש בעיה בטעינה. בדרך כלל כשהמצב קשה והטורים כבר קופצים, קבל זה קצת מידי מאוחר מידי. אני מבקש לשמור על השרשור רללונטי ובשביל שאלות ספציפיות לפתוח שרשורים נוספים מהסיבה הפשוטה שבעתיד כשמהוא יבקש מידע על הקבלים ותשובות חד משמעיות הוא לא יצטרך לקרוא 17000 עמודים של שאלות קיטבג. עימכם הסליחה...

בנק קבלים ענק אגב היה באחד הפרויקטים שיצא לי לראות ברכב תצוגה במגאזין רוסי, הוא אומנם לפי שמועות לא שרד הרבה זמן... אבל אחד היתרונות זו ESR מאוד נמוך ויכולת טעינה ופריקה מהירות מאוד יחסית לקבלים גדולים בודדים. מה שאני מנסה להגיד שיכולת ספיגת המתח בחיבור מקבילי לא תרד אך הקיבולת תגדל לסכום שניהם. ספיגת המתח בחיבור טורי תגדל לשווה ערך 2 הקבלים, אך הקיבולת תפחת.

לגבי הסאב כרגע זה לא רלוונטי כי הכל יושב על AB אבל רעשי אלטרנטור למינהם זה משהוא שאני יוכל לוודא באופן וודאי. אגב אני חושב טעית. אבל אולי אני לא הבנתי את המושגים בעיברית פשוט : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AamT_L2M-N0 דרך יוטיוב ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

צימות? זה אומר חיבור טורי? אם אני מבין נכון אז חיבור טורי מעלה את ספיגת הV אך מחלק את הקיבולת ב2 חיבור מקבילי מכפיל את הקיבולת פי 2 אך משאיר את הV אותו הדבר + מקטין את הESR. פתחתי הרגע כ 20שרשורים בפורום מאוד וותיק ברוסיה ואני יוציא משם כל פיסת מידע מועילה ויעלה אותה לכאן.

קבלים מודרנים עמידים עד 20V בערך.

מאמר מתורגם מפורום רוסי ע"י גוגל המתאר בדיקה של קבלים והשפעה על מערכת חשמל Group test Buffer capacitors Price range $ 100-150 All presented in a test buffer capacitors are in class Neo FOR WHOM THIS TEST In the debate on the need to buffer capacitor has torn a lot of copies. Even professional installers in this matter has still not come to the unity. Our review - another attempt to reach the truth. While working on this material, we found that the conventional wisdom, if the capacitor should at least put to "audio is not planted the battery" - far from certain. We have seen, for example, that without the capacitor in the number of current consumption does not change either in milliamps. But we also found that the capacitor is very effectively compensates for voltage losses in the electrical contacts of many of its links to the signal path to the amplifier. WHAT YOU GET FOR YOUR MONEY In addition to the condenser, there are always included in brackets for mounting it. Many capacitors are equipped with automatic charging circuit that eliminates the procedure of charging the capacitor through a resistor or a bulb every time you connect the battery. Digital voltmeter, which has a capacitor, will also be superfluous element. Very useful available "on board" some models audible alarm onboard voltage falls below a specified level. And finally, the terminals of the capacitor can be used as a central distributor system - dilute them with food for a few amps. By testing how we The essence of the problem we indicated that the battery - is a chemical energy source. It can give a lot of current, but can not do it as quickly as it should - it takes time to chemical reaction took place. Strictly speaking, this is the reason audible distortion in the bass region - the blurred and resounding bass. At the same time, discharging at such moments, the capacitor maintains a constant voltage at the terminals of the amplifier and corrects the situation - this is the main conclusion of our test. Therefore, to objectively evaluate the possibilities of capacitors, we measured the magnitude of the losses. How is the WINNERS Fed to the amplifier maximum bass signal one hundred counts per minute under a load of 2 ohms, we determined that the voltage drop across the terminals of our amplifier was 1.08 volts. We had only to find out how these same 1.08 volts will come "too tough" each "bank". We also evaluated the appearance, easy installation, completeness and availability of additional features in each model. How to get the best results The condenser should be installed as close as possible to the amplifier, the conductors are of minimal length. If the capacitor is no automatic charging circuit, it is necessary to charge through any car light bulb, otherwise the connection will be discharged capacitor is like a short circuit in power with all its consequences. Prology CAD-1.0L 4 points Average price 89 Callout: The cheapest in our survey capacitor has the good packaging It is surprising that the cheapest in our comparative study, the capacitor has a very good package - gorgeous aluminum case, which always come in handy for storing anything valuable in your car. Also noteworthy is the fact that the capacitor is attached to the bottom of the box with screws through its mounting bracket is not to be damaged in transit. Staples are made of plexiglass. In addition, there are included allen wrench and a resistor for charging the capacitor. Automatic charging scheme has no product, so the procedure is charging through a resistor or a bulb for this capacitor is required. Especially as it is described in detail in the accompanying instructions. Such a requirement is not to everybody's liking. The capacitor is not familiar - round and hexagonal housing of light metal, most likely, some sort of aluminum alloy. Under the transparent cover is a digital voltmeter, a pair of blue LED status indicators, and a mechanism buzzer indicating that inclusion in the reverse polarity or power surges. Enable or disable the display of digital voltmeter is done automatically when you start from the energy of the capacitor and no additional audio connections are not required. In the measurements on our methodology, Prology a fine job with his main task and was able to compensate for sagging voltage 1.08 V to 0.41 V. This value of the third result in this test, although it should be noted that the best results differ from it only slightly. Pros: The aluminum case, molded case Cons: No automatic charging = Verdict: The product that requires attention in connection By passport Capacity 1 F Dimensions: mm 271h95 Cadence CAP1-DRN 4.5 points Average price 110 Callout: Food Distributors are located directly on the terminals of the capacitor The next person does not look in shape to the typical cylindrical "cans." He seems to consist of two cylinders are connected in a common housing. Between them there is a blue luminescent band - Fluorescent Lamp. For her work on the board provides switching voltage converter because the power supply of fluorescent lamps in the hundreds of volts. Separate special bracket is not supplied - condenser has mounting "ears" right on your body. Another difference between the capacitor - it's distributors supply, which are placed directly on its terminals. Each terminal is able to consolidate the two wire 4-gauge. It can be very helpful during installation. Voltmeter and four LEDs with transparent Plexiglas dome lit up in blue - we have often noted in their review that the blue light has become very popular among manufacturers in the season. The card has a trimmer for precise calibration of the voltmeter readings, if you have, of course, there is a reference tool for removal of accurate readings. With the included hex key and a resistor to charge the accumulator, for instance, and this scheme does not have an automatic charge. Cadence - only one of the participants of the test has a capacity of 1.2 F, but it did not allow him to become a leader on the results of our measurements. With him drawdown voltage was 0.44 V, which is the average of the test. Pros: Food Distributors, compact size Cons: No automatic charging = Verdict: spectacular and easy to install product By passport Capacity of 1.2 F Dimensions: mm 170h60 Mystery MCD-100 4.5 points The average price of 120 Callout: capacitors with protection against reverse polarity and signaling the high voltage Mystery of the capacitor can without exaggeration be called a handsome glossy - his whole body chrome, and red digital voltmeter and bright blue LEDs create a harmonious color scheme. Housing in this case has a rectangular shape with rounded corners. Mounting brackets made of plexiglass. The capacitor has a second Plexiglas hood that covers the bare metal terminals, than to protect the structure from accidental short circuit. The product is packaged in the exact same case as Prology, and has the same set of tools and fasteners, consisting of a hex key and a resistor for charging. But this time we have to note the absence of the scheme avtozaryada. But there is a system of protection against reverse polarity and audible alarm on exceeding the allowable for the condenser, and hence for the entire board power supply voltage. It can happen only in case of failure of electronic regulator in the alternator, so that is the sound notification will not be superfluous. Connected to our measurement scheme, Mystery restored to the level of drawdown voltage 0.37 V, which is the second result in our study. Pros: Stylish design, contact protection Cons: No automatic charging = Verdict: Stylish and easy to install capacitor By passport Capacity 1 F Dimensions: mm 270h90 Macrom MCAP a 4.5 points Average price 130 Editor's Choice Callout: The version without the "external tuning" is preferred in the case hidden installation of capacitor The basic concept of Macrom - simplicity and ease of installation. Baskets speakers, fasteners, guides and diagrams to install - everything is provided to facilitate the work of the installer. MCAP one in the classical cylindrical body. The metal case covered with dark chrome, which looks very impressive, but it is easy to leave fingerprints, so that after installation, wipe it with a cloth, and he will delight you with its dark luster. Capacitors Macrom exist in two versions - with the electronics and a digital voltmeter, and without them. We got the version without the electronic "cap" - no LEDs here, voltmeter, too. Hence it is clear that avtozaryada not, there are only two gold-plated terminals. There is a safety valve, which is to "play off" excess pressure if not properly connected or high voltage, because no other protection against these evils are also not provided. product wherever the same condenser with an electronic cap will not fit. In addition, direct contact with the conclusions of the drive should have a lower resistance than the lengthened spacers in electronic terminal "caps." And our measurements show that this is true. Capacitor showed the best result, he was able to compensate for two thirds of the drawdown stress, leaving only 0.35 from 1.08 in the drawdown without a capacitor. Pros: The best result of compensation Cons: No protection of the voltmeter and = Verdict: An excellent choice for concealed installation By passport Capacity 1 F Dimensions: mm 230h75 Phoenix Gold CAP1 4 points The average price of 137 Callout: Beauty! Even the four self-tapping screws that we found in the set, and those - the "golden" Company Phoenix Gold International, Inc. started its business with the production of high-quality audio / video cables and accessories, including the buffer capacitor. A few years later the company has grown into one of the leaders not only in the U.S., but around the world. Not for nothing in the company name contains the word "gold", namely Phoenix Gold has been one of the first who began to apply the gold leaf in the connectors. Capacitor, we inherited, has a body covered with a thin black shrink-wrap. As if confirming his legendary origin, the condenser is equipped with mounting brackets gold color ... Even the four self-tapping screws in the kit, and those - the "golden." This is certainly not a real gold-plated, but the general style of the product is maintained strictly. But the contact terminals are covered with real gold. Just like the previous review of the party, Phoenix Gold CAP1 does not carry any electronics and a voltmeter. The manual is not only wiring diagram, but also a detailed drawing illustrating how to charge the capacitor. Required for this resistor in the kit is included. By the way, if anyone knows, the capacitor must not only always be charged before connecting, and discharged the same resistor before removing. Ability to jumper terminals is very high key, and the stored energy with a capacity of 1 F is enough to burn in the terminal piece, and lose sight of the spark. Our measurements showed the average of the group. This model is able to restore prosazhennoe 1.08 in tension to 0.42 V. Pros: A rigorous design, gold-plated terminals Cons: No electronic security and voltmeter = Verdict: Simple, work product By passport Capacity 1 F Dimensions 230h75 mm Art Sound AXC 10VM 4.5 points The average price of 150 Best Buy Callout: This capacitor is fitted with a automatic charging The next person has a major difference from all previous ones - it has a diagram of an automatic charge. It is safe to connect it to the onboard network, and with nothing to fear. When you connect a translucent plexiglass lid with dark green LED lights up a little, and electronic digital display voltmeter blinks red dots. In ten seconds, turn on the relay, located on the motherboard under the hood, the display will show the voltage on-board network at the moment, and we can assume the automatic charge complete. Capacitor itself is enclosed in an aluminum housing unpolished - a technological style. Terminals are gold-plated, according to the manufacturer, 24-carat gold. Included is a bracket for mounting of black plastic, hex wrench and screws. Our measurements showed the expected result - prosazhennogo compensation voltage was slightly lower than that of all measured before the capacitors. As noted above, it is very important in the way of a good contact of a powerful pulse of current from the capacitor to the amplifier. A relay, which provided automatic charge is significant resistance in the current path. Recovery prosazhennogo voltage occurred with 1.08 to 0.48 V. We recall that the best result for the test group - 0.35 V. Here and choose what is best for you, either ascetic product with maximum results, or a convenient and feature-rich, but with a little less. Pros: Automatic charge Cons: A smaller value of compensation = Verdict: Easy to use product with automatic charge By passport Capacity 1 F Dimensions: mm 265h75 Helix DPC 1000 4 points The average price of 150 Callout: charged it well, very long time - more than a minute! Helix Power capacitors are manufactured in Germany, and, according to the manufacturer, they are designed in accordance with the requirements for car audio systems with Multiple contact devices and devices, which use ultrasonic cold solder foil. This sophisticated technology allows the production of a very low frequency-independent internal resistance. The company Audiotec Fischer was among the first suggested the use of buffer storage capacitors, and, of course, she has much experience in their production, especially since the production of its own. Indeed, DPC 1000 is different from his fellows, who seemed to have gone from one pipeline - only the names are different. And these differences are very noticeable, for example, the upper plexiglass glass, under which the electronics - transparent, and its lid, which are fixed terminals - black. Terminal screws are also very different forms. The other survey participants if their mailbox got one. The metal case is painted black. Brackets for mounting in the bundle, you have to buy them separately. Under the transparent cover is a voltmeter display with large segments of the light and two LEDs. Green light is on when working condition, and the red signal will reverse the polarity connection. But most importantly, that the capacitor has a scheme of automatic charge. When you connect it charged for a long time - more than a minute. Surprisingly, such a well made product found in our measurements, the result is rather low - 0.51 V, and it confirmed our conclusion that the automatic charge affects the working properties of the product. Pros: Automatic charge Cons: No mounting bracket = Verdict: Mighty product, but not without flaws By passport Capacity 1 F Dimensions 285h75 mm TESTING RESULTS (conclusion) Before you announce the results of our study, it should be noted that this group test of his we have given an unequivocal answer to the question of whether to apply the storage capacitors in automotive audio systems, or their participation in the installation is optional. Our conclusion is simple: all the capacitors compensate for almost two-thirds of "drawdown" voltage at the terminals of the amplifier is already known to you the reasons, which in itself has beneficial effects on the quality of the music being played. In addition, it has become clear that the capacitor is easier and safer to contact terminals - the value will be the best. So you have to choose between themselves products with convenient auto-charge or without him, but with better basic parameters. As can be seen from the test results, none of us considered capacitors not earned the highest rating, as it failed to combine in a "bank" the dignity of the buffer storage and a spectacular electronic device. Therefore, we have chosen for themselves Macrom MCAP 1, in spite of all his rather shabby appearance, and the certificate of "Best Buy" was awarded the Art Sound AXC 10VM for the most complete set of features and capabilities expected. Maybe if we got another model from Macrom - with an electronic "hat" - results of this review would have been different.

ראיתי שהותקן כזה דבר בצפון אצלנו. נסה לאתר את בעל המגבר או את המתקין שלו לדעתי שמו מקס...

מה שאני יכול להגיד באופן ודאי שרעש אלטרנטור כפי שהוא מודגם בRTA הזה שלו זה בדיוק נשמע כמו שזה נראה בגרף ואצלי למשל התופעה קיימת. כמו כן כמעט כל מונו CLASS D שאני מחבר אני "זוכה" לקבל רעש לוואי מהסאב כפי שמתואר בRTA שלו גם כן. אם זה שטויות או לא אני מאמין שהרכב שלי מקום אידאלי לבדיקה כי הסימפטומים קיימים. כל מה שנשאר זה להביא קבל איכותי, אגב דני, שאלה לי אליך: במידה ואני מחבר מספר קבלים במקביל האם זה עדיף על קבל 1 גדול? אני מבין שככל שהקיבולת של הקבל גדולה כך הESR גדל (התנגדות פנימית), אז ההיגיון אומר לחבר במקביל כדי להוריד התנגדות, אני טועה?

מאמר מעניין בנושא: http://www.bcae1.com/capacitr.htm שוב לפי ההבנה שלי היא שהקבל תורם מאוד באופן כללי לפני שנוצרת בעיה כמו האורות מהבהבים וכו'. במקרה כזה זה מאוחר מידי ואולי יכול לתפקד בתור פלסטר זמני לבעיה עמוקה יותר הדורשת החלפה למצבר AGM ג'ל ושדרוגי אלטרנטור. דבר אחד אני צריך עזרה בו ואני קצת מבולבל, זה ערך הקבל, כמה צריך? אני יודע שכלל העצבע אומר 1000WATT 1 FARAD. האם זה נכון? עדיף כמה קטנים במקביל כדי להוריד את ההתנגדות בינהם (ESR)? האם אתם מכירים קבלים טובים בעלי ESR נמוך וקצב פריקה גבוהה?

שלום, בזמן האחרון אני מתעניין מאוד בנושא הקבלים במערכת הסטראו ברכב שלי. קראתי דיי הרבה והרוב המוחלט טוען כי זה לא וודו, זה כלי למערכת חשמל בריאה ויציבה. כמובן שזה לא יתקן צריכות יתר שהאלטרנטור והמצבר לא יכולים לתת אבל בזמן שימוש תקין זה מונע רעשים, ראיתי את הסרטון הבא ורציתי לשאול מה החשמלאים שבינינו חושבים עליו. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPTlfwgPGyM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL דרך יוטיוב ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

כרטיס קול מעולה!!! למה אף אחד לא רוצה???