inbal edry

דובי הי אתה צודקת הייתי צריכה להפריד את הנושאים, לשנות נוטס בגלל תוואי דרך שהשתנו זה דבר אחד ולשנות נוטס בגלל נהג ולא לשתף אותו זה דבר אחר אבל עדיין כל מה שרשמתי בהודעה הקודמת רלוונטי לחלוטין.

הי אני מבינה מה דני התכוון כשאמר שלפעמים צריך לשנות(לא לשקר) את הנוטס לפי הנהג או מצב הנהג ותוואי הדרך(לא קראתי את כל ההודעות,ככה בערך הבנתי ממה שקראתי),אני תומכת ולא תומכת בשיטה הזאת, לפעמים אין ברירה ועל הנווט לקחת החלטה ולשנות את בנוטס בנקודות בעיתיות מסויימות בסטא'ז בגלל סיבות שונות כמו נווט שיודע עם מי הוא יושב ומה השריטות שלו ורק ככה אפשר להרגיע או לזרז אותו, מצב רוח של הנהג(ז"א צריך להרגיע אותו או לזרז אותו אז אני יוריד או יעלה מספר מהסיבוב לצורך העיניין או אוסיף סימן קריאה לפני קפיצה למשל) או בגלל שינוי של תוואי דרך תוך כדי ראלי ועוד סיבות אחרות, אבל נווט צריך להיות מנוסה ולהכיר את הנהג והרכב בשביל לעשות זאת, אני אישית נאלצתי להשתמש בשיטה הזאת פעם אחת(כי רעדו לי הביצים). אבל אני אישית מעדיפה לדבר אם הנהג ישירות ולהגיד לו שהוא מכתיב את הנוטס מהר מידי או לאט ושהוא לוקח קפיצות מהר מידי ומסתכן ללא צורך (לדוגמה) ותוך כדי זה לבנות אימון ביני לנהג ולגרום לו להבין שגם אני יושבת פה ברכב וחלק פעיל מנההיגה שלו לטוב ולרע ושיש צורך שהוא יקשיב לנווט שלו,אחרת בשביל מה התכנסנו. יום טוב

הי זלמן אני לא חושבת שזה משנה כמה תחרוית יש בשנה אם זה WRC או אליפות ישראל, מספיקה תחרות אחת שבה תהיה תאונה. ואני חושבת וחשבתי על זה אחרי כל התהפכות שחוויתי שאני צריכה לקנות איזה שהוא סוג של תומך צוואר......אבל זה לא בוצע עדיין מכמה סיבות. חג שמח

למרות שהמכשיר עולה הרבה כסף, אני חושבת ובעיקר לאחר ההתהפכות האחרונה ששווה להשקיע, בסופו של דבר זה הבריאות שלנו.

ירון שלום קודם כל ברוך הבא, כנס לרכב הראלי שתמצא לנכון נווט בו ותתחיל במה שאתה יכול, אי אפשר לדעת אולי אחרי כמה ראלים תרגיש שאתה רוצה רק לנווט ולא מעוניין בנהיגה יותר, אבל זה בסדר שתרצה עדיין לנהוג גם אחרי המון ראלים וניווטים. עצם זה שאתה תשב ברכב ותהיה שותף פעיל במירוץ אתה תתחיל לקלוט דברים שקשורים גם לניווט וגם לנהיגה וזה יעזור לך כך או כך. למרות האי הסכמה שנוצרה פה בדיון הזה, דבר אחד הוא בטוח אך לא צריך ואפילו לא לרגע למנוע ממך להיכנס לרכב ולהתחיל לנווט, וזה שנווט טוב ומקצועי לא חושב על לנהוג לא לפני שהוא נכנס לרכב הראלי בפעם הראשונה ולא תוך כדי השנים שהוא מתעסק בניווט ראלי, כל כולו נתון לעניין הניווט נטו, זה פיסת מידע שהיא חשובה, אבל לא צריכה למנוע מאנשים לרצות להיכנס לרכב ולהתחיל לנווט כי הם חושבים גם על לנהוג,בטוח לא בארץ כאשר הספורט בתחילת דרכו וצריך כמה שיותר אנשים טובים. ענבל

שלום לכולם רציתי להגיד תודה רבה לכל מי שהגיע נהנתי מאוד מהמפגש. נתראה בקרוב.

hi duby how you doing? i will be there as well i'm arriving to Israel next week and be more then happy to attend talk to me, inbal

hi can i ask people please not to start arguing about it. i do believe that some thing like that co-driving course will happen in the future in Israel. the main think to remember is that we have the right contacts with the right people, so when the right time will come we will try again. and do our best to lower the prices for the benefit of every person that wish to attend Good day inbal:-)

hi everyone, Just a quick message to say that the co-driving course and the motor-sport evening with Nicky grist has been cancelled due to luck of people registering . Inbal

hi duby do you know why yoval got late to TC8? inbal

hi at the moment this is the only course plan it will be in English but I'm going to be there to help with the language if needed. if i was you i would not miss it because of that. hoping to c u there, inbal

hi everyone just a few more details the course is in association with Alternativi and will take place in Kibutz Ramat-hakovesh This is a one day course starting 9:30am finishing 1700 Lunch is included; also those registering for the course will get 20 shekels discount for the motor-sport evening on the 31st of may. The course will only take place if a minimum number of people will have registered by 17/5/07 Those who registered and paid before this date will get a full refund in case of cancellation. The motor-sport evening fee includes entrance and a free first drink. In this evening Nicky will tell all about his rally experience with Colin MaCrae and juha kankkunen. He will also display in-car footage from his rallies. There will be time for questions and answers in the end of the evening that will be followed by a signing session on Nicky's postcards and posters Please contact Duby for registration details if you have more questions please contact me via email or leave me a message here or contact duby. inbal

sorry to hear about your loss, condolences, inbal.

from a point of viwe of someone that is rallying in England for the past 5 years that is just sounds and look bad. zalman can probably back me on this and i keep say that taht is the reason to why the motor-sport in isreal is not making any progress,instaed of fighting you need to back each other. and it does not make a different if 150shekels is too much or not and even if some think it is so just come to the event to spectat for moral support to saw that people are interested in rasing the motor-sport for real instead of depreesing it!! i can tell you that trying to make an event happen like the co-driving academy IS taking a lot of time and money. it is a shame that you can not see the messages going on this forum from my or zalman point of viwe it is looking really bad!! time for a change i think AND big one Kobi good luck Inbal.

Hi Zalman, That is the first co-drivng acadmey in the uk that what Duby meant. Are you coming?? I'm hoping to have more details in the next two weeks when i will be in israel. C U Soon,inbal.

hi kobi what about the older lades?? can i have a go good-luck and well done for the idea

i think once motorsport will be legal in israel, some of the big compunes will see and understand how much money this industry can bring and get, and the impact it can make in israel and outside of israel, a few different sponsers will rise and offer there help to the right drivers with high potential but first for any of it to happen the sport need to be legal. as for the govrement here in uk we had only one rally sceme that the govrement has contribute for and it was not a big seccsses. inbal

,Hi Everyone Due to some logistics problems we have decided to delay the course to April time We would like to make sure that the course wiil run as smooth as possible and with less problems as possible Nicky is very keen to come to israel and for the course to take place as soon as all problems will be solved. I will keep you all updated as soon as i will have some news if you have questions please leave me a message in my mail box . sorry,inbal

Hi everyone, Nick has just released the course syllabus and this are the points that he will teach. We will publish dated and prices by sunday and the place which the course will take place in. :-)inbal Nicky Grist Academy – Israel Course 0930hrs Arrival – Coffee 1000hrs Introduction and Handouts :The course will be taking students through the following The Co-drivers Role Equipment pre Event Preparation Surfaces, Event structure, Maps, Rules and Regulations : Roadbooks Checking pages, Important Junctions, Control points, Timing sections :Timing International timing, Other timing, Control procedures, Time cards and check :Service Crew Organisation Service Rules, Schedule of points, distance and fuel, Time allowance, Maps and locations 1300 to 1230hrs Lunch :Recce Schedules What stages, when and where, how many passages, time schedules, road section loops pace-notes Writing Pacenote books, Other information to add, Layout, Writing, Pencils :Reading Pacenotes Key Points, Delivery, Speed of reading, Vital information :On Event Priorities Co-driving, Timing, Service requirements, navigation . Questions and Answers 1700hrs Finish Regards Nicky Grist The course will run according to the syllabus but will be in an open questions format,if anyone feel that they left with unanswerd questions or other issues related to co-driving nick will be happy to answer it during the course.

hi, nicky and i had this idea:idea: to do a rally co-driver course in israel about a month ago when. nicky launch his co-driving academy in the beginning of the year and ask me to be one of his instracturs. The idea picked up from there ive know nick for more then a year and his expireance is amazing,when he starting to talk about co-driving you(me:wink: )just keep quiet and want to "drink" every bit of information as you know he is one if not the best co-driver there is,with alot of expireance and amazing stores. i recomend to every person that is intersting in rallying to take this maybe one in a life time oppretunite and to attend this course. we are also planing to do a motor-sport evening,were nicky will talk all about his memoris and rally events while co-driving for coiln mcrae and juha kankkunen. i want to say thank you to duby for helping to get the preporation of the course up and going. , .at the moment we have a few details such as the time of the course that will run during march .it will run during a weekend and i(or duby) will publish the course syllabus in the next few days And that nick is coming for sure:wink: any questions meanwhile you can contact me on: [email protected] or leave me a message on this forum or talk to duby which probably will be easier. i hope that it will bring a good boost to the sport in israel inbal

Its very very sad to read all those things,and that is 80% of the reasonsthat motorsport is going very slow in israel. if pepole will carry on like that we wont move any where before fighting u need something to fight about keep the peace:| inbal

hi sorry i had to reply. but i know that some people will take it like that,i dont think that it is physical that men are quicker then women i think it more logical. Danika patrick is a very good example she is quick but not quick enough but mentaly and logicaly see think like a men,and that what i meant by that. ive co-drive for female driver and in japan and uk several of times and its not the same. you need to be singel minded for the job and men are much more then women that is all i got to say,but we all got different opinions,and that is my opininon and more i can tell you that this is my problem some times and again im not saying ALL womens just from my expirence in rallying

can i say some thing. and girls dont take it too hard but women can not drive as in competeive drive and it is a fact,alldo i do think that one day we will be able too but there is none at the moment,and personally if a female driver will ask me to co-drive her i will think twice and only if i dont have something eles to do i will(or if its a round of the wrc),men got bolls and no brian when it come to rally driving and you do need bolls and ego to drive fast and make it to the top. and again sorry if i offended any one,but im a women too dont forget.

i may be coming over in april but ill see my rally season is starting in march so i may need to come between rallies.